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    Straylor, thank you for sharing this article. Interestingly enough, NPR ran a similar story not more than three days ago. The only difference, however, is that the NPR story focused on India and the extreme pressure placed upon students applying for India's top colleges. While it would be safe to assume that more Indian students are applying to college for the same reasons given in your article (one of them being the growing middle class/upward social movement amongst the population), the story on India attributes a large portion of the rise in interest for college simply to numbers. There are simply so many students applying to top Indian universities that admissions boards have been forced to look only at the scores of a single entrance exam and give little to no weight on anything else (grades, skill sets, extracurricular activities, etc.). This fierce competition amongst hopefuls has forced some to look towards the U.S. and bypass Indian schools altogether. And these Indian students are not applying to just any schools, but Ivy League institutions of higher learning. Yes, it is indeed easier for many to gain entrance into Harvard and Princeton than it is to Delhi University.

    I can't help but wonder where many of our American students fit into this worldwide education picture. More specifically, where do my students fit into this global picture. Here in the U.S., many educators attempt to see students in a holistic way looking at their strengths, teaching to them, and utilizing those to build up deficiencies. Here in the U.S., we also have the best universities in the world (a title that will continue to endure into the future despite the rise of other countries). But as new superpowers emerge and begin to export their students, how will our students respond/compete in a globalized college market? Hmmm...

    http://www.npr.org/2012/01/10/144902774/in-india-the-pressure-cooker-of-college-admissions
    edited by bdeleon on 1/13/2012

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    Bdeleon, too bad for the Indian Universities if they only use one statistic for accepting students. Wouldn't we all like to use one statistic for rendering judgement! I did not hear the NPR piece but I wish I did. I also share your wonder about the status of US students as the world becomes flatter (to borrow Friedman's phrase) and the chase for finite seats among increasing numbers of students heats up. The mathematics of it all is daunting. If intelligence is spread in a normal distibution, then India and China combined have 7 times more geniuses than the US. And all would find a seat in an Ivy league school. OK, that's pretty simplistic, but still, the pressure is on, and unrelenting.

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    Bdeleon and McJones I agree with you that the pressure is on for our students to compete in the globalized college market. However, I feel many of our students are unaware of where students in other countries stand. It is difficult for our students to see beyond their comfort zones. As a result, it is our duty to expose students to the global world. I also believe while the U.S. has some of the world's greatest universities, it is weak in its secondary education. While other countries assess students through project-based learning across curriculum, we depend on standardized tests such as the CST.

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    [font=Times]While I agree that it’s sad that we depend on standardized test such as the CST’s in the U.S. there is no reason why we as teachers should shield ourselves from being innovative and not take clues form others around the world and here at home may I add and incorporate project-based curriculum. If anything, I would suggest and even argue that project-based curriculum with a heavy emphasis on writing and reflection yields higher tests scores satisfying administers while addressing our students real learning needs. Take a forum like this for example as a market place of ideas to fuel and recharge our minds. I have already pulled many valuable resources form reading other people’s post and hopefully will get the opportunity to sit down with some of them to create some cutting edge lessons. [/font]

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    Straylor this is very interesting article you have touched upon and maybe we need to take greater clues form our Chinese counterparts and seek ways of gearing more of our students (or in fact start) to study overseas and in particular in China. Sadly, while our school speaks a wonderful number on the importance of creating a global community, I can not remember a single instance where one or any one of our students at West Adams spoke about studying overseas. There are many reasons why our students are not thinking in this fashion and perhaps we should take a lead at our school on expanding our student’s horizon. It can only serve our entire community and move our from simply talking about creating global students to actually creating them. I know in the past in other schools you have been involved in several programs and perhaps this is a worthwhile club to start looking into out campus. We can start by looking for opportunities for our students to study in the summer and from there hopefully move into bigger plans. Thanks for posting this article.

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    I have to say something here. I was born, raised and educated (I got my BA from China) in China. We rely heavily on standardized test. But the difference is that we (Chinese education) hold the students accoutable for the test result. Only if the student pass certain tests with certain grades can move up a grade level, attend high school or enter university.

    I realized the short side of the assessment system in China early on. Yet the ones I went to school with learned their math, English and science very well. Here in the US, we perserved our children's creativity but it sometimes scares me that they don't know how to spell. Their lack of basic Math skills and their misconception of science fact.

    There is a new documentary called 2 Million Minutes that talks about global education. It compares the life of high school students in three nations, US, China and India.

    I showed my students the international ranking of the math and reading skills. Some of them felt bad and hurt when they saw the US ranking is that low. I stopped doing that. Are we more worried about how our kids feel rather than how much they know?

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    It seems interesting that the US and China's educational assessment testing accountability are on opposite sides of the spectrum. If only we just got along better so that we could come to a compromise of the two systems that would hold accountability in equal amounts to the students and society. That's what democracy was intended to maintain. An equal balance of powers and ideas. Just food for thought...

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    Personally, I think that we shouldn't shy away from letting our students know that they don't measure up with other student's math and science scores around the globe. We're teaching them to function and compete in a global economy and society, so they should have an accurate view of where they fit in. I can't speak for other countries, but American students are spoiled and for no particular reason. That's why I think it would be an invaluable experience for American students to undertake some type of foreign exchange course of study in China or other Asian countries. Studying side-by-side with students raised in an extremely competitive environment might reinvigorate the competitive drive that seems to be lost in far too many American students.

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    I read an article today by Adrienne Mong entitled "Chinese Applications To U.S. Schools Skyrocket." Mong points out that Chinese undergraduate students have doubled their numbers over the past two years. Many of these students utilize the services of education consultants who help them identify potential college matches and also help with the application process. Mong goes on to point out that China sends more of its students to the U.S. than any other country. Of course we probably have more colleges and universities than any other country. I'm pretty sure we discussed the first Chinese student, Yung Wing, to study in an American college in one of our classes. I guess Wing is considered a trailblazer these days. Mong attributes the surge in Chinese matriculants to U.S. colleges to a growth in China's middle class. In fact, most of these students pay their own way, so you know American colleges welcome them with open arms. By one estimate, Chinese students spend $21 billion on tuition and living expenses. Of course, this comes with a price. Many American students lose their seat in an incoming class to one of these Chinese students. However, in this global economy, Chinese students are increasing their stock by interacting successfully in the other major market in the world. American students can learn from this lesson and perhaps its time for them to start exploring more educational opportunities in China.

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