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October 21, 2010 at 4:04 am #4438
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KeymasterSo, Prof. Miyake provided the class with some magazines about contemporary Japanese culture. I must admit that I went through all of them because I found them rather interesting. Anyhow, there was an article about "Hafus" which are people who happen to be half-Japanese. These individuals seem to struggle with modern Japanese society because they are not treated as Japanese. The article then devled into the notion of what it means to be Japanese. In America, if you were raised here or even lived here for an extended period of time, you generally consider yourself American; and most people consider you American. It seems that in Japan, even if you embrace the culture and identify with the population, you are not made to feel Japanese unless you are full-blooded Japanese. The article did not go into why Japanese think like this. So my question is: Why are the Japanese so rigid in identity?
October 21, 2010 at 6:09 am #26113Anonymous
GuestI would say that not only the Japanese are "rigid in identity". In most European countries the situation is still the same. It is a phenomenon that is related to the concept of the national state and belongs to the past (hopefully) . The good news is that there are countries like the USA, Canada, or Australia where the adjectives derived from their names are related to the concept of citizenship rather than to the concept of ethnicity.
October 22, 2010 at 4:39 am #26114Anonymous
GuestI would agree that some European countries make it difficult for certain populations to feel like they belong. (Example: Muslims in France, Turks in Germany and Indians in England) But, I feel that mixed-race individuals in those countries are actually integrated into society. From my experiences in Europe, being half-European, and say half-Asian, doesn't merit exclusion.
October 25, 2010 at 12:06 pm #26115Anonymous
GuestThis is a really interesting question. First of all, as someone who is an amalgam of different ethnicities, I have never encountered any real problems being "part" of American culture, as the original poster observed in the first post. I do agree that being in America, a country made up of many backgrounds, being mixed-race is no longer a big issue here, especially as I see more and more of my students who are mixed, like me. Second, I think that since Japan is so insular, that might have something to do with their strong racial and cultural identity. They're not as isolated as North Korea who is in more of a forced seclusion because of their government, of course, but geographically, Japan is somewhat isolated and maybe that could be a contributing factor into it's seemingly "insular mindset." I'm just speculating, mind you.
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GuestBeing a participant in the professional sphere of Japanese life, I have this impression. Japanese people love to have international visitors for about three years. Three years is about the maximum time that any working contract will last. After that time, any international worker needs to get moving back home. The Japanese are very outwardly kind, but they can be very quietly destructive to an outsider's working future, visa renewal forms not getting sent and such.
An odd addition to this is that if a foreigner picks up a Japanese spouse it all seems to be good after that. Perhaps the spouse is a living testimony to dedication to Japan and the Japanese people?
November 15, 2010 at 10:28 am #26118Anonymous
GuestVery interesting from Mdiaz about the time that one can stay in Japan, 3 years, and that picking up a Japanese spouse makes it all good. I have a niece and nephew who are half Japanese. I think that they are totally accepted by their relatives, but because my brother divorced their mother, he is not as accepted. (obviously)
I am reminded also of a Marlon Brando movie that I cannot remember the name of, where he falls for a Japanese performer. It was a very touching movie. And then of course there is Madam Butterfly. Wow, what a heartbreaker, and a very interesting comment on how American's viewed a child who was a Hafu, being raised by a Japanese mother.
November 15, 2010 at 12:32 pm #26119Anonymous
GuestI don't know if this is the movie you're thinking of, but "Hiroshima Mon Amour" is a movie that has cross-cultural themes and ideas of romance with two people who have a totally different conception of the relationship.[Edit by="mdiaz on Nov 15, 8:32:59 PM"][/Edit]
November 30, 2010 at 3:39 am #26120Anonymous
GuestWhy are Japanese so rigid with identity? It is a good question to ponder, especially since it is easy for japanese to welcome outsiders into the Imperial family as well as in families with no male heir. This was mentioned in one of our lectures. I think it was Prof. Miyake. Why the change to non-acceptance? On a personal note, my friend has lived and worked in Japan for 30 years through the Univesity of Michigan. He is married to a Japanese woman and has a son. The son is not fully accepted by soceity as full Japanese since he is mixed. the son looks all Japanese and speaks both English and japanese fluently. He has no accent, nor does his dad.
Mr. Macias commented that some of his students are mixed and have no problems of acceptance. I disagree. I think it depends what the mix is. I worked in south central LA and some of the kids were mixed Latino and African-American. When the racial riots occurred, there was a dilemna on what side to support.November 30, 2010 at 11:45 pm #26121Anonymous
GuestIt's interesting to note that, although Japanese are "rigid in identity," they have no problem changing their names-- names that have been passed down in their family for many generations. Couldn't anyone shed the stereotype of Hafus by simply giving themselves a Japanese name?
December 7, 2010 at 5:47 am #26122Anonymous
GuestI can't help but disagree with the idea that certain nations have eliminated the rigidity of national identity attributed to the Japanese. I would argue that there is a sliding scale of notions of national identity here in the US. American citizens of different ethnic identities experience being American in different ways. Gloria Anzaldua's work, Borderlands, coined the phrase "Nepantla" to describe the nebulous identity of Chicanos in the US. She poses an interesting argument that we are neither here nor there in reference to our identity. She explores the hybridity of culture and the inherent conflicts that arise from this shifting location of self. Moreover, I don't feel the warm embrace as a full-blooded American despite my citizenship when I know that just a few hundred miles away in the state of Arizona, I might be pulled over and questioned because of the way I look. Furthermore, places like Australia and the US have only recently begun to recognize the history of systematic racial cleansing and state-sanctioned segregation. We can never forget these injustices. William Halett Carr, a British historian wrote, “Great history is written precisely when the historian’s version of the past is illuminated by insights into the problems of the present.” I find that the lectures and postings continually take me down this journey of self-reflection and analysis, looking for commonalities and differences in the various ways we as human beings have organized our societies.
December 7, 2010 at 10:11 am #26123Anonymous
GuestI agree. I don't think all people of mixed races or minority groups for that matter are completely accepted in our society. Minority groups that have been marginalized throughout history continue to be marginalized by the dominant group(s).
December 15, 2010 at 11:12 am #26124Anonymous
GuestI also feel that its not just the Japanese culture that has difficulty with accepting those who are not 100% "like them." The biggest issue may be that even within certain cultures, be it Hispanic, Asian, European, there are differing values about what it takes to fit in. I feel that in America especially, there are those who have adopted a more "American" version of their ethnic culture. Any culture/person that is so rigid that it feels the obligation to not accept people who are only half of this and half of that, really needs to develop a better sense of tolerance. If you can't accept people who share ethnic and cultural similarities, how can you accept the differences of others who you share no commonalities with.
December 19, 2010 at 8:51 am #26125Anonymous
GuestHafus became common after World War II because of American influence. They are still frowned upon in Japanese society.
December 31, 2010 at 3:56 am #26126Anonymous
GuestThis is a great question to bring up. I agree that the Japanese are not the only culture to bring exclusion to mixed race citizens, especially historically. Think about the Latin American independence movements- they were all based off of mestizo and mulatto prejudice. And what about the European internment camps for being half-jewish in the 1930/1940s?
So if Hafu means half-Japanese, what does Hapa mean?
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