Session 9 - 2/2/10 - Dube - Conclusion
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February 2, 2010 at 9:13 am #5110
Rob_Hugo@PortNW
KeymasterHi everyone,
Please reply to this message and share your thoughts about our February 2 concluding session on contemporary East Asia by Clay Dube.
-Miranda
February 2, 2010 at 10:36 am #29197Anonymous
GuestIn Clay Dube's presentation on February 2, 2010, he showed how much influence the Japanese have played in the modern history of China. That the Japanese were able to modernize more quickly than China, were able to annex large swaths of Chinese territory, were able to wrestle control of Korea from China, and inflicted intense suffering on the Chinese population during the attack on Nanjing, demonstrates why China views Japan with some suspicion even today.
February 2, 2010 at 11:17 am #29198Anonymous
GuestThe presentation tonight highlighted the ineffectiveness of the League of Nations in preventing the spread of Japanese expansionism in Asia. That the Japanese government chose to leave the League of Nations rather than follow its directive demonstrates that this organization lacked credibility within the international community. Although the United Nations has been criticized by many in the United States and elsewhere, it shows that the UN has international credibility that the League of Nations obviously lacked, and may be more valuable then we are led to believe by its detractors.
February 2, 2010 at 11:18 am #29199Anonymous
GuestLike the first seminar, I have thoroughly enjoyed this one. Thank you, Clay, Miranda, and to all the participants in the program.
February 2, 2010 at 12:51 pm #29200Anonymous
GuestI find it very interesting to see how despite China's struggle with equality, that Clay mentioned today, in particular, the need to be respected by the West, serious human rights violations continue to be commited in all areas of Chinese society. You would think that if they wanted to be seen as a "civilized" equal, they would desist from such actions.
Yet, having learned China's history, and seen what a tremendously rough road it's had, I have to give China a lot of credit. It is now one of the economic leaders of the world. That's very impressive.
February 4, 2010 at 10:55 am #29201Anonymous
GuestTo quote Lao-tzu; ‘A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step’.
The East Asia Seminar has made me feel as if I have traveled a million miles and thousands of years. I am very grateful to Clay, Miranda and all the participants for all their hard work and dedication. I have learned and experience so much, and acknowledge the responsibility of sharing what I have learned with others. Thank you for the experience, and I know that the journey begins anew:
February 5, 2010 at 12:16 pm #29202Anonymous
GuestAlthough there was some repetition from previous meetings, I felt that I took advantage of it and it cemented information regarding China, that I had lost through Japan and Korea.
I am sill grappling with the specifics of my curriculum project, but feel it will be more solidified when I settle on what country to focus on. That is difficult for me. I am attempting to link novels, or memoirs of a specific country...or maybe not. Any of you read Still Life with Rice? I am toying with springboarding from that memoir, meaning a focus on Korea.February 6, 2010 at 3:45 am #29203Anonymous
GuestMany, many thanks to Clay Dube for his fabulous lectures on China. It was amazing how he could condense such a long and rich history in just a few sessions, without leaving out any essential points. He is not only an expert in Chinese history but also quite knowledgeable in all of East Asian histories. I am especially impressed by the fact that Clay Dube has an excellent way of tackling and explaining difficult issues, leading teachers to understand their complexity that has affected many areas of political, social, and economic aspects of East Asian history today. I learned a lot. Thank you.
February 8, 2010 at 4:19 am #29204Anonymous
GuestProfessor Clay, thank you so much for that abundance of information you shared with us during this Seminar. I have aquire information and a sense of curiosity and sensibility for the Asian cultures, particularly modern society and families who just arrive to the US. I will continue to research more facts on this interesting part of the world that was unknown to me. You are just an expert in this culture and I feel so honored for the opportunity I had to listen to you. Love you always, Ximena.
February 9, 2010 at 4:10 am #29205Anonymous
GuestProf Dube:
Thanks SO much for a seminar with SUCH a wide scope and SUCH a wealth of information.
All of the lecturers were not only informative, but well-prepared, interesting and engaging. That was no small feat (and here I speak for myself), as my day started at 5am and by 5pm when our many of our meetings began, I had been up many hours and engaged in working with over 193 students - and all that goes along with teaching.
Yet, I was keep on my toes throughout.
Bravo!February 14, 2010 at 3:08 am #29206Anonymous
GuestI'm still struggling too on what country and what topic to settle on for my lesson. There are so many good choices and several topics that really go well with my 10th grade World History content. I've been forming some lessons in my head about the Rape of Nanking, so I may go with that.
I recommend in the Absence of Sun too, if you haven't read Helie Lee's other book. I think I mentioned this in another strand/thread. Talk about an exciting, somewhat hair-raising story, especially about the attempted rescue. You'll love it!
February 14, 2010 at 3:13 am #29207Anonymous
GuestThanks, Professor Dube, for an interesting and informative conclusion to a great series of seminars! I learned so much from him and from all the terrific speakers, and am looking forward to implementing much of the information into my lectures and lessons. A big thanks to Miranda for doing such a good job organizing, answering questions, and keeping us well fed. Thanks for the delicious Korean pizza at this last session--I especially loved what tasted like sweet potato in the crust!
Now, onto the lessons.....
February 18, 2010 at 7:00 am #29208Anonymous
GuestThank you so much Professor Clay for the great lecture! Although, as it has been pointed out, it was a bit repetitive, I felt it connected the countries histories. We had been given the information about China, left it, learned about Japan, and Korea, and returned to China. It all connected the countries for me and reinforced what I had previously learned with lots of new found knowledge. Thank you also for clearing up the Korean Christainity question, and relating it to the high degree of education among Koreans. Finally, The Rape of Nanking brings up some interesting points for me. I have to teach it as part of World History. I think I might focus my lesson plan on the topic, since you mentioned some points I never know.
February 18, 2010 at 7:03 am #29209Anonymous
GuestThank you Professor Clay and Miranda for all the lectures, organizations, food (loved the Korean pizza...yum! I had never had it before. It was very different), and most of all the experience. I dont get out much, with two small children, and I really had a fun time! You know your stuff and you do it well!
February 21, 2010 at 4:48 am #29210Anonymous
GuestThe very fact that this seminar meeting is called the conclusion is very sad. This has been excellent the whole year (well five months). All of the speakers were excellent, and gave us so much. Clayton has such passion for China, and East Asia, that it becomes infective - you want to know more. I can only hope there will be other seminars which we can attend. A huge thank you to Miranda - you are quite the organizer, and you took such great care of us. And a thank you to all who participated, because it was the questions and answers that further delved us into the subject matter and made it even more interesting. Thanks to all.
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