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    Rob_Hugo@PortNW
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    Being an ESL teacher for seven years, I noticed that new students are intrinsically motivated and take their education as a serious business. Asian nuew comers are usually more focused, have good study habits, and respect higher authority compared to students from other cultures. Yet, it is so sad to see them changing drastically when they have to adopt the new culture, leaving behind their good behavioral habits. Is this a universal behavior, when we adopt the new culture?

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    It is hard to say why such change occurs. Having taught in Japan, I know that the students are under tremendous amount of pressure to perform and get good grades. Their grades are directly correlated to the type of university that they will get into so a lot of parents spend their money on after school cram schools to boost their child's chance to getting in to a top university. And college is not like the United States where you get to have an undeclared major and explore; by the time you enter a university in most Asian countries, you become a specialist of a particular major. From what I've seen, the ones who do not "measure up" are usually labeled as "dishonorable" or a "disgrace" by most of the parents. I used to counsel many of these "outcast" students -- they would often complain about not liking school because it was not what they desire or they did not know what else they wanted to do. That all they do is cram, cram and cram. Some of these students expressed wanting to visit me in the United States so that they could be "free" from all the pressures and be themselves. Luckily, I've had the fortunate opportunity to host a number of my past students in the US and it was great seeing them. They had fun and relaxed for the first time. I think when you live in such a pressurized society where group pressure think is so intense and ingrained, there's a part of you that wants to explode unless there is an intervention of some sort. Most of the students who visited me went to a local college or a trade school. The ones who did not attend school, got married and had kids.

    I have to say, though, I've seen different types of students over the years and what I've come to realize is how important mentoring outside of the home means to these kids! A lot of them feel so lost and want to talk to someone about this uncertainty. By validating their voice in their life, I think it empowers them to ask more questions and come up with some sort of life strategy.

    It is easier said than done, of course, but it is worth it.[Edit by="seun on Jan 22, 11:03:37 PM"][/Edit]

    #29304
    Anonymous
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    Many countries throughout the world have similar stressful educational systems- not just Japan. I find though that many of our students (or at least at my school) do not value the education that we are trying to provide them with. They turn their noses up and ask "When will I need Algebra I in real life?" or as a history teacher, my personal favorite, "This class isn't relevant to my life so why bother?" I know it is our job to "sell" to our students why education is important and why our subjects are so valuable to their futures. However, I find that our students sometimes just don't want to be sold. I hate to say it, but many of my LEP students are the ones who do the best in their all their classes because they understand what the education system is like in other countries. I wish our education system was a bit more stressful, like Japan's, to encourage our students to take this time period in their life seriously so they can better adapt to their future. I don't mean to say that they need to take after-school classes, Saturday school and more after school night classes! If our society didn't give off the repeated impression that students who can't read or write can go on to million dollar careers I have a feeling that things might improve- I'm almost tempted to say how much worse can they get? Why not go in the direction of Japan in terms of educational reform?

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    I certainly would be one to favor more of an educational move in the direction of Japan or Korea. More time spent in school might be a good start. In Japan and Korea you don't see students going home from school at 1:00 or 2:00, or even 3:00. We tend to treat school as if it was a part time job. But I loved your statement - that "our society gives off the impression that students who can't read or write can go on to million dollar careers." I think we really need to examine this.

    #29306
    Anonymous
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    For every culture that assimulates to being here in America, sadly the children lose their traditional cultural habits, as they are so wanting to be Americanized.
    Ironically for the Asian students since education equates success equates family pride, they are very focused on that goal of success.
    If every child could have the same focus and determination...

    #29307
    Anonymous
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    Tragically that dishonoring or disgracing ones family is so prevelant in the Asia culture.
    That is what sets them apart, to either be super achievers or victims of a tragic suicide, as they are not able to uphold to the expectations of the family.
    For a young child being raised in today's society which gives children more liberties and choices, as well as variation of opportunities for success beyond the academia, it is extremely difficult for one who is raised in a traditional environment to realize they do not have such options.

    #29308
    Anonymous
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    As Americans we are very fortunate and priveledged... Many things we take for granted. It is only to easy to forget the freedom and opportunities we have, that make soo many want to be here; yet it was not given to us on a silver platter, men and women lost their lives for what we are soo priveledged to have today.

    If Americans had to pay for an education or parents were held responsible for their child's education, we somehow held parents accountable, then we may see a change.
    It is sad to see what has happened to our educational system, and of course no one wants to be held accountable so they always blame the teachers.
    When America became a "I"/"me" society instead of a "We" society... we started losing the battle, as our values of respect, responsibility we no a standard. Whereas in other I refer to traditional cultures respect and responsibility is very much valued and reinforced, as those cultures leaning more to the western ideals.
    When I was in Oregon, and I would see Tongan students acting inappropriately, I would always remind them, in your family and culture you would not get away with this.
    We have teachers from the Philipines teaching in our school district, and I give them "kudos" for putting up with our students, as they do no have any of these disciplinary problems in the Philipines.

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