September 9 - Dube - Intro/Geography/Early EA

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    Rob_Hugo@PortNW
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    Hello everyone,

    Please share your thoughts about our September 9 session - Introduction / Geography / Early East Asian Civilizations by Clayton Dube - by replying to this post.

    -Miranda

    #29929
    Anonymous
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    I liked the intro evening a lot and look forward to the class's meetings. Thanks for all the background info and setting the stage for a course that offers texts, which I am thoroughly enjoying:

    Somethings I liked in my readings:

    From "Passages from the Laozi": (sic--underlining not working as I type)

    " If you want to take from something, / Be sure to give to it. / This is called the brilliance of the minute. . . (Ebrey 29).

    and. . .

    In the preface to " Daoist Teachings":

    "Whereas plants and animals act spontaneously in the ways appropriate to them, humans have separated themselves from the Way by plotting and planning, analyzing and organizing. Both texts [the Classic of the Way and Its Power and the Zhuangzi] reject social conventions for an ecstatic surrender to the sponaneity of cosmic processes" (Ebrey 27).

    srae, 9/18/08

    #29930
    Anonymous
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    Super interesting!!!

    I loved the detail about the density of the Tokyo subway at rush hour (7 people per square meter)--or 1 person per 12" x 20" of space!!! How is that even possible? My book bag wouldn't fit in that space!

    I've been enjoying the reading, too--the poems about nature, in particular, are beautiful.

    #29931
    Anonymous
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    I, too liked the "trivia" facts within your lecture, such as the sheer number of people who fit into a space on the subway during rush hour. I told my students about it, and we tried to see how many we could fit! Some of the Filipino girls had no trouble, but my Samoans said "we count for three!" Hahaha... I am very much a popular culture and "trivia" junkie, so it helped me to remember and retain other information that was more significant and dense. Thanks for that!

    I'm not a very political person, but it was interesting to see/hear about the inter-connectedness of politics and life in the different Asian countries. Certainly demonstrates how universal these issues are.

    As for pre-reading, I liked the letters, a few of the stories (although I didn't completely get the satire in the "Proclamation on North Mountain" piece...I'm just hoping I'm correct that that is the satirical piece!), and really enjoyed the poetry. T'ao Ch'ien's poems reminded me of much of the romanticists, such as Whitman and even Thoreau...wonderful imagery and simplicity.

    #29932
    Anonymous
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    I really enjoyed the introductory session on the 9th. Lots of interesting facts and figures. I enjoyed the poetry, and am already thinking ahead as to how to incorporate some of these pieces in a poetry unit for the spring semester. I shared some of the information with my students and they actually had quite a bit to say about the influence of China on global economy, as well as questioning the role of the United States in the face of such a formidable consumer market like China. Looking forward to the upcoming classes and instructors.

    #29933
    Anonymous
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    I thought that tuesdays meeting was interesting. I wish we could have spent a little more time discussing E. Asian Geog. Geography is one of the main focuses of my 6th grade ancient civ. classes. I really enjoyed the story about Tokyo's crowded subways. I am also looking forward to the next session about Chinese Philosophy. I am not much of a debater, but i am interested in learning more about Daosim and Confucianism.
    have a great day

    #29934
    Anonymous
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    I enjoyed the introductory session, and I look forward to the class. The books are interesting, and I love the bag. Now that I have all of the details of how to get there and where to park, I am now ready to dig in. I have learned a lot from the first session already. My computer finally let me log on. I'm not sure what the problem was.

    By the way, I love the view from our classroom window.

    Dawn

    #29935
    Anonymous
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    I enjoyed the September 9 session very much. I'm glad I learned some basics, such as which countries are referred to by the phrase "East Asia."

    Also, I am very glad that I gained an appreciation for why educating my students about East Asia moreso that other regions of the world is important. The U.S. and East Asian countries and economies are so much more intertwined beyong the understanding that I already had about this topic.

    I will have an usual challenge in my classroom simply because I don't teach subjects that are obvious fits (History, Social Science). Since I teach math (namely, Algebra), I've begun to consider ways that I can creatively work education about East Asia into teaching core math concepts and skills.

    I'm glad to be taking this class and very much look forward to all of the learning that is yet to come. I've always had a fond fascination with East Asia, and now I am getting to experience the region and its peoples and cultures.

    #29936
    Anonymous
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    Ms. "K" and Fellow Classmates:
    I found the September 9th meeting to be both enlightening and interesting.
    For starters, I had no idea how much Asia has "invested in" and "depends upon" the United States - and visa-versa. With the current financial misery in the U.S., the synergistic reationship is even more critical. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a "global economy"; however, since it is a fact of life, a focus on Asia(as opposed to the Western World) seem imperative. A random fact that I found particularly interesting is that China recycles much of our "junk"(i.e. - electronics, steel, etc.). I had no idea.
    I suspect the "interest factor" of September 9 was largely associated with Mr. Dube's teaching style and method/choice of disseminating information. The pause, the rhetorical(and direct) questioning style tended to "chunk" information into sections or units that were easier to follow(and allowed for "catch-up" note taking). These things I appreciated.
    Walt Banta

    #29937
    Anonymous
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    The first session was very informative. I left knowing more about Asia, it's population, and geographical breakdown than when I started. It was interesting to find out that Korea is smaller than California, and has twice as many people. And, we complain about California being crowded. I knew that China and Japan was heavily populated, but when Professor Dube gave the example of having 7 people stand on a newspaper to give an example of 7 people per square meter, it brought home the idea of just how densely populated some Asian countries are.

    Also, because of what we see in the media, I never really thought about the fact that the vast majority of Japan consists of forest and mountains.

    I am excited, and I look forward to learning more.

    #29938
    Anonymous
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    I also was fascinated by the information that was shared about the density in East Asia. I always share with my students the information regarding the four geographical levels of Asia so to see it on the screen from the satelite picture was eye opening. I hope I can get that slide to share with my students.

    #29939
    Anonymous
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    This first meeting got me really excited about the class. I am so intrigued by the history and geography of East Asia. While I am interested in the contemporary relationship between the United States and East Asia, I am also really looking forward to learning about the diverse and unique cultural history of the region. I really like that Clay is so well versed in the history and culture of the region. I love listening to his lectures!! he has soooo much information! I look forward to future meetings..

    #29940
    Anonymous
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    I like the compare between California and Korea/Japan, and many unknown statistics/misconception. It is kind of mind blowing in a fun way though. I would love to have the PowerPoint presentation. Can someone email me that please? Appreciate it a lot! My email: [email protected]

    #29941
    Anonymous
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    just a thought- looking at the geography of East Asia, I wonder if in the future an organization like the EU will emerge. I am speaking more of a economic conglomerate of sorts that leads to and a single currency and a ruling body like that of the EU. While it is unlikely, it is interesting to think of how this might effect global politics, trade and the decline of the US.

    #29942
    Anonymous
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    Besides the mind-blowing information regarding the crowded lifestyle of Japan, my memory of this day was highlighted by the image shown of the 2 Koreas (North & South). I found this image extremely powerful, and yet at the same time very disheartening for the people of N. Korea. It is almost hard to believe that in a day in age where S. Korea has become one of the most modern nations in the world, that hundreds of miles to the North there resides a dark country, with a disadvantaged people who are at the mercy of a heartless government. I will definitely use this image to spark debate in class.

    Thank you,

    Manuel 😀

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