I tend to get confused by the two (sorry Professor Dube) -- sorry about my naivite but they both seen to be outsiders and I look forward to more of this discussion during class on Saturday Nov, 17th. I'm also searching in the readings for evidence of the transition in social structures that allowed for the emergence of SunYate Sen's philosophy and his home grown version of Chinese democracy. (this harkens back to my fascination with Hegelian principles about class struggle and "dialectic materialism" in my past studies.)
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