2/22/10 - Session 9 - Dube - China 1976 to Present and Conclusion

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  • #31233
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    Yes it is so hard to imagine growing up in a country without demorcratic government & elelctions.

    #31234
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    The sense of nostalgia you mention makes a great deal of sense. I've heard of other countries experiencing the same tension as the gap between rich and poor grow. I wonder how much tension would build before the government steps in with any substantial changes.

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    I think it was pretty obvious that Mao, or any dictator for that matter, would fear an educated populace. George W. Bush clearly stated more than once that "a dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it." Who wants to be questioned when you think/know what you are doing is right. I teach George Orwell's 1984 in my English II class. This is a great real life example of the slogan "Ignorance is Strength". Strength for the leaders and safety for the masses.

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    I wonder how America would receive a little red book from Obama. Just a pocket size collection of his ideas and quotations. It seems like much of the imagery from Obama's campaign was taken from Mao's own techniques. The HOPE poster could be Socialist Realism meets Andy Warhol. I don't believe in the whole Obama being a socialist thing, but most politicians rely on similar techniques of wooing the masses. I still wonder with our fascination with celebrity and fame, how would Mao fit into the digital age? I think he just missed it. Would he have liked to be part of a reality T.V. show, like say... I don't know... Big Brother?

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    China has elections, but the nominees were mostly pre-selected.

    #31238
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    Looks like the NPC is debating serious legislative reform--more congressional representation in rural China.

    http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2010/03/china-legislature-weighs-election.php

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    "Since 1995, China's industrialization and urbanization have accelerated further, the economic and cultural level in rural areas has increased dramatically, and profound changes have taken place in the social structure. The urban population in China has increased from 29.04% in 1995 to 46.6% in 2009. At the same time, people's congresses at all levels have gone through many terms of elections, accumulated abundant experience, achieved enormous results in developing socialist democratic politics and a socialist legal system, and the class base and mass foundation for the people's democratic dictatorship led by the Party has been consolidated and expanded. The objective conditions are in place for revising the Electoral Law and electing deputies to the people's congresses based on the same population ratio in urban and rural areas."

    --Vice Chairman of the Standing Committee Wang Zhaoguo

    "[T]he people's democratic dictatorship"...???

    The article continues:

    "Currently, 960,000 rural residents receive the same representation as 240,000 urban residents, leading to calls for reform."

    I would think those calls for reform have been taking place for some time now.

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    I don't have my notes in front of me from the last seminar but I remember Professor Dube commenting on the 4 t's that are areas of contention for China: trade, Tiananmen, Taiwan and Tibet. I can really see China's perspective more on Taiwan now. Taiwan has such a unique political position. I wonder though with the direction China is going, with a Communist party but capitalism more and more on the ground, if the historical differences between China and Taiwan will diminish and be minimized over time. I still don't quite understand China's control of Tibet though.

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    China has always been a powerful country in my mind, perhaps because of the overwhelming media shouting out how it is a communist country. Even the politically unaware citizen, would know what that word means- fear! I find great irony that as Prof. Dube said according to Mao "Chinese people have stood up and we will not be pushed around any more" that is the greatest fear of the American people, foreign influence dictating how to live our lifes and spend our fortunes. Yet if each nation would admit truly their intent: We want to be the best; We want to have the most; We will do what is necessary to secure those 'rights'. Now the differing points come in to effect when you think about the leaders of these great nations.
    A critical thinking skill that I integrate in my classroom is to compare and contrast. A way that I could share an awareness of a communist law and a democratic law, would be to look at political freedom of speech. Share a few examples of short ads from each country and have them work in groups to try and figure out which country they would be allowed in. Then discuss what each law would look like in a communist country and in a democratic country. An extension of this lesson could be to have them write or draw an add that would be welcome in each country and explain, why, how, it would work.

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    I found the slogan "Political Power comes from the barrel of a gun" as presented by Mao and the Red guards, very intriguing. Of the different parties, the Nationalists and the Communists which were both trying to attain power in China, ultimately the Communist party was successful in part because it had the militia to back up their promise. The communist party was better organized and more disciplined, using these two goals 1) Unification of the country and 2) Throw out foreigners. The concern for Chinese was the fragmented pieces = weak appearance to outside nations.
    China has some interesting challenges ahead. I enjoyed the discussion of the four T's in the US-China relationship. The four t's being trade, Tibet, Taiwan,T-enumen Square. Trade between the US and China has long been a profitable tale that both sides have been looking to enjoy enormous markets for their goods.
    One way I could share the influence that China has in the US would be to have each child bring in a toy from home to share, and then graph where each toy was made. My guess is that a large majority are made in China, and a few other asian countries. This would be a personal way to relate with the students and also a way to integrate another discipline math, using their graphing skills.

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    "political power comes from the barrel of a gun" is certainly an expression i've heard more than once. I found it in a 1936 war-era publishing from Mao that contained some other fascinating political ideologies.

    http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_12.htm

    #31244
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    From what I've read/heard, the world financial crisis hasn't been felt as badly in China because the government is placing artificial restrictions on Chinese currency, keeping it afloat. The US has pressed China on this artificial support but so far, China has refused to relinquish control on their currency and allow market forces to affect it.

    #31245
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    I think this same sentiment was prevalent in Cambodia, where nearly the entire intelligentsia was butchered by Pol Pot and his regime. I believe the same practice occurred in Vietnam. It seems as if those in power always fear a population that is educated and questions the activities of their government. I think you can compare that to the McCarthy era in the United States where a person could be labeled "communist" if their views veered too far to the left or if that person associated with the Left.

    #31246
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    I think the economic differences between China and Taiwan have definitely diminished over the past two decades. While China continues to rattle their saber whenever Taiwan makes a purchase of military hardware from the United States or when the Taiwanese government talks of true independence from China, the economic ties between the two countries seems to grow stronger and stronger. Tourist visits between the two countries increases annually while trade follows the same suit. I wonder how these two countries will look in another 2 decades.

    #31247
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    A fellow teacher passed along a recent issue of "The Economist" complete with a cartoon picture of Uncle Sam and Mao together in a bed on the cover, that addresses these complex economic issues. It's all a bit over my head, but made for some interesting reading.

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