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    Anonymous
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    This was one of my favorite lectures- probably because I love literature so much. I also had enough time, with spring break, to read most of the material and cannot wait until I can read more. I think it is important to stress to students that some of the literature and history that we have is not only by those who "win" but also those in some of the smallest groups of a population. The common people are often not represented because they are too busy doing the work to get an education or have the leisure to spend time writing things down.

    #28683
    Anonymous
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    I forgot to mention to emphasis on women as the main contributors to early Japanese Literature. It is so contrary to what most of our students hear about the developments of cultures we study. The young ladies in my class would be pleased to know women were able to contribute in an artistic way in Japan.

    #28684
    Anonymous
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    I enjoyed the wide variety of Japanese texts Professor Miyake presented and thought that the diverse versions of the Tale of Genji could be useful in making Japanese literature come alive for my students. I often attempt to use graphic novels in the classroom because I find that my students find the text a little less intimidating. Of course, after looking at the "graphic" nature of some of the comic versions - I'll have to be careful to make sure that the images are age appropriate.

    #28685
    Anonymous
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    I liked the information about the Tale of Ginji. The animated movie and the manga books. I've been looking for a way to incorporate the 'Ginji' more than just as a passing footnote of "hey look it's kind of the first novel in history." I have taught history and English for ten years, mostly sixth and seventh grade.This year I took on a seventh grade "core" situation at my own behest and am designing my curriculum for the future as predominately cross-curricular. I have a block schedule with English every day for two groups of students and those same two groups every other day for history.

    Beowulf, Chaucer, and Shakespeare are easy to come by. This class and specifically sesssions like this one help me with the Asian part of my curriculum.

    #28686
    Anonymous
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    For me this was an exceptionally revealing session. The picture that the literature painted of the Heian period seemed very ethereal until I was given the background information to complete the picture. Such a small group of literate people, and such a deliberate power play that it made me almost angry. I'm sure the men of the time enjoyed themselves, and even though the women were forced to play such a strange role I got the feeling that they weren't unhappy with their lot. Life in that time was crude, and not having to lift a finger except to write poetry couldn't have been so terrible. Perhaps theirs was a small price to pay for their privilege.

    Still the writing was eloquent. I have read "The Tale of Genji" and found it a strong story. At the time I read it I was struck by the female author's ability to use the point of view of a man to tell her tale. Quite a feat considering how restricted women's lives were. Still, most of the tale tells about the exploits of Genji with women so one can see that assuming to be plausible.

    I will certainly use the idea of the pillow book in my ELA class when the 7th grade students are studying Japan. Using this technique to demonstrate how these books are a window into the culture of the time should allow the students to come to a deeper (and more memorable) understanding of what they are learning.

    #28687
    Anonymous
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    Professor Miyake's lecture was one of my favorites so far. The different versions of The Tale of Genji would be very interesting to incorporate into my 9th grade curriculum, possibly along with The Odyssey.

    My absolute favorite portion of class, however, was reading/discussing the lists from The Pillow Book. In class this could provide an interesting discussion of how so many human experiences are constant across time and culture. I think it would also be a great starting point for a fun creative writing assignment!

    #28688
    Anonymous
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    I agree with what many of you have said-- Professor Miyake's teaching style was very engaging, and the topic was very interesting!
    As many of you have said, I was especially interested in learning about the lives of women-- I think I always find it fascinating to learn about societies where there was such a dichotomy between the treatment of women and men. I thought it was interesting that even though Japanese women at this time had to walk on their knees due to their layers of clothing, they were some of the first women in the women in the world to be literate...
    I also agree that looking at excerpts from The Pillow Book was fun and interesting-- it really is amazing how things stay constant. In addition to using excerpts from The Pillow Book as a jumping-off point for creative writing, I think reading and discussing this could help students connect with the distant past-- by seeing how similar feelings and emotions are across time, students may not feel as disconnected from the past.

    #28689
    Anonymous
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    There appears to be a cottage industry that supports the claim that Tale of the Genji is the world's first novel. If you Google this, you'll find Genji mentioned prominently, usually by those who have a stake in this myth (i.e. Japanese government, Japanese scholars, Japanese enthusiasts, and feminists). Genji is the world's first novel like Columbus discovered America. What? People haven't been writing long stories for thousands of years? Not until 1000 years after Christ? Doesn't common sense rule all this out? I guess not.

    Some earlier novels:

    Satyricon, by Petronius (Roman/1st century CE)
    The Golden Ass (the word for bottom that begins with A), by Lucius Apuleius (Roman African/2nd century CE)
    Others by Lucian of Samosata (Assyrian in Greek/2nd century CE)

    All basically a 1000 years before Genji. No disrespect, but what gives?

    #28690
    clay dube
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    Hi Folks,
    Some may be interested in a just published graphic novel from Japan. It's in English and is probably too massive to use in its entirety, but some might want to use a selection (perhaps even the pdf sample that's available). The novel is A Drifting Life and was discussed in the 5/10/2009 Los Angeles Times.

    Please go to the language arts thread in the Asia in My Classroom forum for more info:
    http://uschinaforum.usc.edu/showpost.aspx?PostID=387&PageIndex=4.

    #28691
    Anonymous
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    For once, i will have to disagree with Mr. Lee on this one. I think that a comic book or cartton visual of a novel is a great way to help someone understand a copmplex or intriquite story. I know that in 7th grade, I made a 12 square comic on Robinson Crusoe..and it was only because of that assignm,ent that I really understood the story. It forced me to look at important topics characters and try to develop the story to a new reader. I think I will incorporate this into my English and history classes..besides how many times have you seen the simpsons or other cartoons/sitcoms take on these characters and roles in their own waY??

    #28692
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    Horace Mann's web site on Medieval Japan - Literature is a linear look at the literature of Japan that begins with a creation myth to illustrate the religious influences of the period and continues with early poetry, then discusses the early novels, then moves to the war tales, and progresses through the centuries looking at tanka poetry and the influences of historical events on the literature. Mann ends with legends and folk tales.

    What is most appealing here are the games and activities given in a following section, and the web sites for teachers section. There are numerous links to other great sites, and this is potentially a very useful resource.

    Here's the address:http://www.sfusd.k12.ca.us/schwww/sch618/japan/Literature/Japan_Literature.html [Edit by="mseeger on Jun 26, 10:43:54 AM"][/Edit]

    #28693
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    I thought this article was really interesting-- I was especially intrigued to read that clients pay an "incense fee" for geishas that they invite to events-- basing fees on the amount of time it takes to burn a stick of incense seems like such a juxtaposition to the technologically savvy way of life in modern Japan.
    It was also interesting to see that geisha get bogged down by tourists snapping pictures and getting in their way-- I'm wondering if there are any geisha who set up ceremonies for tourists/tourists and families to cater to the deep interest people have in this aspect of Japanese culture?
    -Karen

    #28694
    Anonymous
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    The part of the lecture about he Heian period was especially interesting. I was impressed about the importance of art, literature, and music during this time (794-1185). I found it fascinating that:
    A. the emperor would test his consorts by reading a line of classical poetry and the consort would have to recite the rest to show his scholastic aptitude to the emperor.
    B. women were expected to have good handwriting and study calligraphy
    C. music flourished during this time, especially a stringed instrument called the Koto and a type of flute called the Shakuhachi

    The societal expectation and fashions of women during this period is also of great interest. I was surprised to find that women were not allowed to talk to any man over the age of twelve and that men courted women with literature and by coming to the woman's house three nights in a row. Men had several wives but only one principle wife.

    Also, until tonight, I was completely unfamiliar with the practice of blackening one's teeth. I learned that the rationale for this is that black teeth look good with red lipstick, especially in candlelight, and also that since they had no dentists, blackening the teeth hid imperfections.

    This was a wonderful lecture and the segments on the fetish with cleanliness, soft vs. hard heros, the pathos of life, pillow talk, and the pillow book of Sei Shonagon were especially interesting.

    #28695
    Anonymous
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    I found this site amazing. Your school does a great job. I was intrigued by the Japanese creation story and decided to do a bit of research on my own. I found links to similar stories that use many of the same names on the following link:

    http://www.cs.williams.edu/~lindsey/myths/myths_17.html

    I actually preferred this version of the story because I thought it was more appropriate for young students and seemed to be from a good source.

    I found the same to be true of this link:

    http://www.wsu.edu/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_1/kojiki.html

    Both links contain similar versions of the Japanese creation myth but these versions leave out all the urination, defecation, and searing of the genitals. For these reasons, I prefer the information on these sites, especially for kids. I also found the creation myth on the Horace Mann site a bit confusing. The sequence of events is hard to follow.

    #28696
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    While doing research for my curriculum project, I came across an article about Liza Dalby and her PhD work for which she is famous. As we learned in class, she spent time in Japan and was invited to "be" a geisha for a period. This is interesting in itself, but what I also learned was that Professor Dalby is an avid researcher on the life of Murasaki Shikibu. She has written a fictionalized version of Lady Murasaki's life based on her research called The Tale of Murasaki. I read an except, and it looks very interesting!

    Check out http://www.lizadalby.com/LD/TofM_info.html

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