Review of Professor Dube’s Lecture – March 24, 2009 Chinese philosophy: student debates; Late Imperial China

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    Rob_Hugo@PortNW
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    Since the mid-1990s, I have been fascinated with everything Chinese. It was at that time (1996) I first went to China on a short term summer mission with my church. I have since been two other times. However, China is such an ancient and intricate country that any one topic and/or era could consume one’s time in pursuit of knowledge.
    What I gained from Prof. Dube’s presentation last night was a clearer understand of the philosophies that have greatly influenced and a timeline of the dynasties. These two things are valuable to me.
    I also learned how helpful doing the debate was. It clarified each philosophy and I saw how their proponents might have really interacted in real life. I also saw how valuable a tool this could be to students to engage them. The unprepared may also see the importance of doing their homework and taking part.
    I felt badly because I jumped in and that eliminated the participation of other team members. I know I spent time preparing, so I felt as though I didn’t respect their time in preparing. See, I’m not really a true legalist at heart.
    The timeline of dynasties is still sketchy to me. I definitely need to review the information. However, in my participation at lectures, visits to museums and artifacts, I will be greatly assisted as to what happened when. It’s only a beginning of my understanding but a very important one.

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    Anonymous
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    I thought that the debate went well - albeit very quickly. Perhaps we will have another opportunity
    to debate about another topic.
    All of the groups were very well prepared. Each group presented their beliefe system
    in a clear, consise manner.
    Overall, the debate, preceded by the lecture from Professor Dube,
    made: Legalism, Daoism, Mohism, and Confusianism easy to remember.
    Although the Daoists are so "laid back" that I think that they have been
    smoking opium.

    Now to answer Professor Dube's question for a Legalist standpoint:
    Your father has broken a law. I knew what the law was and he knew that
    his action was a serious violation of the law. He broke the law and he knows that
    I know that he broke to the law. As a legalist, what would you do?

    As a legalist, I know that the government creates
    laws to protect its citizens and to show its love for them.
    Legalism creates a lineage of order for generations to come.
    Furthermore, citizens need order to live morally. These laws give
    us a sense of security and it unfies us as a people.
    Consequently, this applies to my father. However, since he is my elder,
    I will respectfully remind him of the law which he has broken and suggest that
    he make amends. After all, he is my father and I would not want to see him
    suffer for something that he did not mean to do.

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    Anonymous
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    You know, this was one of my favorite presentations...the debate really got all of us involved (too bad we could not finish)....

    7th grade curriculum (and textbooks) does not really incorporate the Legalist perspective. This would be a great insight for my students!

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