session 7: cosmopolitan east asia
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August 4, 2011 at 3:29 am #24118
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GuestBefore I forget, I normally tell my students the reason why we need to memorize the characters is very similiar to the reason why we have to memorize certain roots, prefixes and suffixed in English. Chinese characters have radicals which works like roots, prefixes, suffixes depends on its usage. For example: 木 means "wood" "tree" , however it's also used as a radical in characters like 林 forest; 树 tree; 松 pine; 桌table; 椅 chair ...
Similiar to English root, prefix and suffix, if a student memorize the reasonable amount of basic characters, it is no longer pure memorization when it comes to learning new characters.
Hopefully, my explanation and answer to this question makes sense and helps.
August 4, 2011 at 3:32 am #24119Anonymous
Guestvery good thank you.
August 4, 2011 at 3:34 am #24120Anonymous
GuestIs the "little buddha" a good film to review?
August 4, 2011 at 4:21 am #24121Anonymous
GuestDR Ye's comments on xenophobia--Using his rationale of the Tang dynasty as an open society not threatened by outsiders or their ideas. While his granting the Tang dynasty this praise may be a little simplistic; I'd like to learn more about this because of the relevance to what we face in our nation today. I agree in principle with Dr Ye, but would like to have students understand the opportunities and risks with multi-culturalism.
edited by kireland on 8/4/2011August 4, 2011 at 5:20 am #24122Anonymous
GuestI am in awe of Professor Ye's abilities and knowledge. One of the very important points he made in the morning session was how history is often divorced from the other arts. This point struck a chord with me because I came to the teaching of history by way of teaching literature. I taught English literature for over a decade before I switched schools and took on the duty of teaching both English and social studies to 6th, 7th and 8th graders at a small, independent school. There, I learned how language arts and history complement each other in the classroom. Although I now exclusively teach history, I continue to bring my love of language to my students through touching upon linguistics, poetry, fiction, and non-fiction whenever I am able. Listening to Professor Ye chant Du Fu's "Ascending Heights" brought tears to my eyes. All I could think of was how important it is for this art to be preserved for future generations. I was part of something this morning that very few people have ever witnessed in modern times. Amazing.
August 4, 2011 at 7:32 am #24123Anonymous
GuestI agree with Robin about the Prof. Ye's chant. I was moved and spellbound. It was very engaging and helpful to listen to chant demonstrations of Yeats and Du Fu. Not only did it provide a comparison of poetry from the West and China, it piqued interest in poetry and gave a taste of Tang culture. I can see how students also might be engaged in the Tang poetry. The key is to connect the poetry to its context and make the study relevant to the historical narrative. In so doing, it might help them remember and flesh out what would otherwise be just dry "one event after another" chronicle of history. Like Prof. Ye just said, "Literature is a good way to help students grasp the culture."
edited by tchan on 8/4/2011August 4, 2011 at 1:32 pm #24124Anonymous
GuestToday was a very moving experience for me. As someone who has spent many years developing software in languages, I know that there are very few people in the world living today who have learned to sing these poems - it is a disappearing art. Dr. Ye is a treasure in so many ways, but I was thankful to Wayne Chu for videotaping this event. Dr. Dubey will post this for the class on our forum. I was blown away to be a part of today and to hear something I have heard about for years, but never had the opportunity to experience. It is my hope that USC will try to capture as many of these poems as possible...it is such an important part of history to digitize and to preserve for future generations.
August 4, 2011 at 5:41 pm #24125Anonymous
GuestI agree with many of you about Prof. Ye's ability and knowledge. I remember my class had a debate about the importance of content knowledge and pedagogy in one of my classes when I was studying for my credentials. While some believed content knowledge was more important, many others believed that it was crucial for a teacher to know how to teach. Prof. Ye has demonstrated that we really need both in order to engage students.
August 7, 2011 at 12:18 pm #24126Anonymous
GuestI agree with Robin's common on Professor Ye's chanting. I was so touched and I had to hold my tears. I thought this was because I grew up in China and understand Chinese. However, when I thought more about the chanting, I found out, that chanting can actually go beyond the language limitation. Amazing!
Other things that Professor Ye had in his presentation were the 3 stages of development of Chinese civilization. As I said in my previous pods I am not a history person, but I love literature and philosophy. I noticed that in Professor Ye's presentation of the 3 stages, he explained history by sharing the famous writers, poets, and philosophers. Now history became very interesting to me. I am a language teacher. I think that the same strategy I could apply in my teaching - teaching language and sharing Chinese history to my students. This would enhance their understanding of Chinese language.
edited by vding on 8/7/2011August 8, 2011 at 11:10 am #24127Anonymous
GuestIt is incredibly important for history to be taught in conjunction with literature, poetry, art, and even science and mathematics. As Robin (and Dr. Ye) discussed, history is often taught on its own, although sometimes it is combined with English and literature to a certain extent. I challenge teachers of every subject to tie in history. For example, Chemistry teachers can discuss what went into bronze-making, geometry teachers can teach students about ship-building, biology teachers can discuss why certain flora and fauna are found in some places, but not others. There are so many ways to tie history into other subjects, most often making the subject more approachable and engaging for students. I'd much rather learn about one of those subjects if I'm learning how it is actually applied in real life.
August 27, 2011 at 4:27 pm #24128Anonymous
GuestI really enjoyed listening Professor Ye's chant as well. I didn't realize that Wayne Chu had taped it. I will keep a look out for this if he posts it on this forum. This would be very valuable to add to a lesson for the students.
August 27, 2011 at 4:46 pm #24129Anonymous
GuestHaven't seen Little Buddha. However, I did watch Chunhyang and we definitely can't show this to students! Yikes, the nudity!
edited by ccable on 8/27/2011September 1, 2011 at 5:07 pm #24130Anonymous
GuestI had never heard about chanting a poem. This was a completely new experience for me. As I listened to Dr. Ye, I was amazed at the feeling he put into his chant, the strong sense of pride, maybe, that he conveyed in a talent that probably not many today can do. Also, I never had heard about the CIA world fact book, but it sure makes sense that they would have the hold on what is correct around the world. Empress Wu sounds very interesting to me as she was a very powerful woman at a time when most women worldwide stayed home to raise the kids, cooked, cleaned, and more. How funny it is say that fiction to the Chinese means gossip or chitchat. I love the quote, "There is an end to our life, but there is no end to knowledge," by Zhuangzi.
September 1, 2011 at 5:07 pm #4241Rob_Hugo@PortNW
KeymasterHi all,
Please share your thoughts about Cosmopolitan East Asia and Ming & Qing Dynasties Culture session on Day 4 by replying to this thread. You may raise questions and share thoughts either before or after the session.
Best,
Xin
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